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How did I enjoy golf before this pairing?

Will Dan Hicks be allowed to speak?
I hope they expand the booth to fit both there heads in. (Cosell and Dandy Don, Mike and The Mad Dog AKA “A and Hole”)No place in golf for oil and water.

Another thing about this. While I am no great fan of either as an announcer, This line about them “sharing 8 Major title’s is a bit much.
Faldo has 6 Miller has 2 (coincidently the same amount as John Daly and Greg Norman)As far as their golfing careers there’s no comparing. Miller shot a 63 on Sunday when no one was watching and acts like it was the greatest pressure round in history. He would never be able to go against Faldo with the pressure on.

Miller won 25 times in 385 starts and Faldo won 9 times in 301 starts on the PGA Tour. If both were in their prime, I’d take Miller anyday! Do you remember that for years Faldo was know as Fold-O! I like both as commentators. They both know their stuff and have different styles.

OMG the two of them PLUS Kelly Tilghman !! Its almost enough to drop watching golf on T.V.. Thank goodness I can use the mute button. Shame, shame on you all :(

Oh nooooo. Not Nick Faldonk. Id rather
have Lee Trevino than that donk.

Stop the madness of Tilghman and Faldonk
Ill have to watch reruns of Howard Stern TV
so it will make sense.

I’m looking forward to it, but I care more about hearing Dan Hicks and Jim Nantz, both are great announcers. The opening videos and theme music for the Masters and US Open with those two narrating gets you pumped for the event….and it’s golf which is hard to do. No one ever really listens to the analysts or cares what they say, we just want to watch golf.

McCarley added that Miller, “like any great analyst, lacks a filter between his brain and mouth so you never know what will come out — but you know it will be interesting.”

The preceeding statement is true, so maybe what is required is a Ten second delay in the telecast, so that stupid remarks can be cut out…beeped out…or whatever it takes to make the show sensible?

There’s not need for Miller to say unkind words about Tiger. There is no doubt that Woods will be remembered as one of the best Golfers that ever swung a club, even the one he wrapped around the tree a few years ago.

Tiger Woods as a Golfer has shown his greatness.

I hope Miller and Faldo change with the times and take the Tiger show out of the news for awhile, it is nice to hear about other golfers besides him, don’t get me wrong I think Tiger is one of the greatest golfers whoever played. But we don’t need to hear about him so much and ignore everyone else when he is playing.
I think Miller is a huge mistake for the Golf Channel…it will make my viewing very limited for sure.

Love to listen to both of them. Why did golf announcers always have to be so polite and without opinions? Not like all golfers are perfect gentlemen and without faults. Look forward to some interesting differences of opinion.

I think having Faldo comentating in America is a bad idea all round. Most Americans don’t get British humour, as a few comments above have shown (aka gail)

There’s sanctuary in the booth. And with that goes the commentators’ cardinal sin – smugness. Viewer – resign yourselves, it doesn’t change, and there’s no escape.

I like listening to both of them and I look forward to hearing them together. It would be great to get Feherty into the mix too.

please anybody but kelly and rich lerner!!! i am tried of hearing about tiger and how the tour misses him and how the golf world revolves around him. if its only johnny and nick i’ll watch and if you keep it that way i’ll watch the reat of the year!1

If Miller is so horrible and ruins golf tournaments with his announcing, why have they kept him on for over 30 years? He’s fearless and that’s why people like him. He doesn’t try to be the pros friends so he can be objective and not worry about hurting someones feelings. I think the pairing will be great. I like them both, and when Faldo says, “Oh no!” you know it’s good.

Miller is OK but Faldo keeps it light. I enjoy hearing his comments and isn’t on the prim and proper side. Nance and Faldo would be awesome.

Sorry…Nantz

Johnny Miller is one of the best golf announcers out there. He is honest with his praise and his criticism. He doesn’t sugarcoat his comments so the pampered rich kids won’t get mad at him. He just tells it like it is. Nick Faldo got off to a slow start in his announcing career but is steadily improving. He is also a very knowledgable analyst and has considerable world wide experience. The only two I like any better are Ferhety and McCord because they are just plain funny. I also received some of the best playing tips from Mr. Miller when I was playing the game. His comments helped me improve more than any other person’s. I am not sure how they will do working together but I am anxious to find out. Best of luck to both of them.

That’s probably how you deal with your wife….you don’t listen.

ive been involved with the golf tour for many years,,,johnny is the best hes almost always right on,,,like 98 per,,,,,,,once i told him hes doing a great job,,,he says chris dimarco thinks i stink,,,,i said who cares what dimarco thinks,,,he just laughed and said good point,,,,,,,faldo is very very phony,,never ever talked to anyone involved with the tour for many yrs,,,hes tv deal is a total joke as its not him,,,,still to this day he has a huge problem talking with the players,,,,not a genuine guy,,,,he has awonderful record of course 6 majors is just awesome and what he says is right on,,but no way he can relate to any of the players,,,,just my take,,,,

Glad to hear someone listens while they watch.

scott Isn’t i.b.f. & grady over there somewhere.surely they would give an unbiased desc of play.I don’t get the golf channel here.theres no coverage until 6am anyway. so sometimes iam on the net all night between euro & pga,your 4th round doesn’t get going untill about 12-30am monday morning it’s a p.i.a. can’t have everything i suppose.cheers.

Nick and/or Johnny does not really matter. I watch TV wthout the sound.

@ Ron, Faldo won 30 times on the European Tour 5 more events than Miller won on the US Tour. 30 wins puts him 5th all time in Career wins. The leader of course is the late great Seve Ballesteros with 50 European Tour victories.

Now onto the topic… Johnny Miller and Nick Faldo in the same booth at the same time?!?!?

Oh my, I would like the fact they both speak the truth and aren’t scared of maybe huring some one’s feelings but what I’m NOT looking forward too is these 2 arrogant old boys talking about “my day” and bragging about how good they use to be. I hope the booth is big enough for BOTH of their HEADS….

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My big concern will be that they begin to think the story is them, not the golf. They need to reminded that their job is to comment on and alanyze the story, not be the story.

If you think this pair is “golf’s announcer dream team”, you are sadly mistaken. Great golfers in the past yes. Best announcers and commentators, far from it……………

Like a lot of you, I can not stand Johnny Miller. He always knows best and is very critical of other golfers. If he knows everything then why is he not playing? He knows the best way to do everything. Don’t beleive it, just ask him. Hate to hear he will be on golf channel. Almost makes you want to stop watching Golf Channel.

This is a Terrible Idea! Both of these Clowns Ego’s are the Size of 47 Galaxy’s. It’s already tough enough to watch Golf trying to Stop Johnny Miller’s Head from Swallowing the TV Screen. Throwing In Tricky Nicky into the Mix with his I should have been a Comedian but I’m Not Funny Act, is going to be TORTURE for Golf Fans Just wanting to focus on the Golf Tournament…
I give this half the Season before these two Prom Queens come to Blows. In the meantime Poor Tiger Woods!

Guess that is why there is a mute button on the remote. I don’t like either of them. They both spend way much time talking. I like to watch the golf not hear them blah blah blah.

I am a fan of both these guys, but I think the TV people better get a bigger booth to hold both of these egos at the same time (steel reenforced in case of a serious collisson might help too)

Two wash-ups who don’t want to knock heads on the Senior Tour. They both want you to think about how great they WERE and not what they’ve become. Why is it that every damn TV golf match must have a Brit as one of the announcers? I hate listening to Faldo’s voice and Miller’s whining gets so damn old. If either of them are on, I turn the sound off and just watch.

What a team they will be as I don’t recall them every being “real buddies.” Johnny will be more direct, and Sir Nick will be more polished. I’m looking forward to some of their stories, but also hope they tell us more about some of the basics, like flat swing, releasing the ball, leg movement, etc. We read about this stuff, but most writers do a poor job on this. Let us not forget both these great players ended their careers very, very early.

Golf commentators generally don’t have much of an impact on my enjoyment of a tournament, so while JM can be overbearing with his criticism at times, I still listen to his insights. As long as we don’t have each event become the Tiger Woods Show – Openning shot of every tournament beginning with Tiger, only to find out he’s tied for 34th place, 9 shots back. I know he sells for the networks, but give Golf fans some credit for wanting to follow the leaders, not just Tiger Woods.

I’ll take Miller and Faldo every day of the week. If the folks at CBS and NBC really want to improve golf telecasts, they’ll get rid of totally useless Jim Nantz and Mr. obvious Dan Hicks. Neither one adds anything informative to the viewers.

I can’t think of a worse senario that those two together. I tune in to golf tournaments to watch golf, not to listen to a couple of oversized egos .I got more than enough of Miller on seven nights at the academy.

This should be good…I know these two the “love’m or hate’m” tag but I think it’s brilliant!

Faldo the “aloof” and Miller the “wicked tongue” of Utah…you can’t make this stuff up!

Miller dominated Golf in 73-74…maybe the was as much coverage, but you play Nicklaus week after week and dominated everybody, including Trevino, Floyd.

Faldo was also dominate and no one had his mental make-up…his denise was these the club between his legs!

Good for the Golf Channel…I’m watching

Personally, there is too much talking going on in golf tournaments. If you watch to learn more about the game, the best way is to have the mute button on. Watch the player, and study how he reacts to all situations.
Watching golf on television is in a one hour period, 35 min of commercials, 25 min of chatter between announcers, and 5 min of golf coverage.I find it hard to watch, other than the masters. Those guys know how to do it.

I think you guys are letting your feelings about Miller as a commentator affect your thoughts on him as a golfer. To be frank, Johnny Miller IS one of the best golfers of all time. You may not like his commentary. You may not like the way he talks about his past. All that aside, he’s one of the best ever. Dude has 25 PGA Tour wins, which is 23rd all time, ahead of players like Gary Player, Raymond Flody, Hale Irwin, Davis Love III, Greg Norman, Tom Kite, Ernie Els (I could go on). His span of victories range from 1971 to 1994, a period 24 years. Only 4 players have a bigger span than that – Sam Snead (30), Raymond Floyd (30), Tom Watson (25) and Jack Nicklaus (25).

And you guys that scoff that he “only had 2 majors”. There have been only 33 golfers ever to get more than that.

And Miller’s 63 at the U.S. Open on Sunday was arguably the best pressure round of golf ever played. The U.S. Open has always been the toughest major to win (based upon course setup), so to go out and shoot a 63 with the likes of Trevino, Nicklaus, Player and Palmer (who was leading the tourney starting Sunday) all ahead of him is no small feat. That round alone certainly doesn’t validate him as one of the greatest golfers of all time (his career does). But that round certainly entitles him to brag a bit about it because that was something that may never happen again.

Miller is the best golf commentator of the last 20 years, and has great insights into the players’ thoughts processes. Faldo is okay, but Nance makes him better.

Its crazy that people want to diss Miller’s playing career, as though a short career counts for nothing. Only Nelson, Hogan, and Tiger have ever had a stretch of golf like Miller did.

I saw Miller in ’79 and he had 240 to an elevated pin at Warwick Hills (par 5) and heard him tell his caddy that a driver would land by the hole but would bounce too hard on the green, whereas a 3 wood would land in the heavy rough 15 feet short of the front pin. He put the 3 wood exactly there and made birdie. No one hits the ball that straight any more.

I like pineapple and I like peanut butter, but I’m pretty sure that peanut butter and pineapple would suck.

PLEASE lose Johnny!!!!!!!!!!! He makes Venturi at his febrile, demented nadir seem bold and knowledgeable! If JM is in the booth the sound is off here!

Talking heads….who cares?

I really dont like Johnny Miller as a comentator, and for those of you that think he is the best at breaking down swings, Peter Kostis is far superior.

Awaiting moderation??

I don’t care for Miller if he was as good as he thinks he was then he would have won at least 15 majors. I would like to buy him for what he is worth and sell him for what he thinks he is worth I would be as rich as Bill Gates.

Also get rid of Kelly Tilgham she thinks she is a man. She uses ever worn out golf phrase ever spoken.

You’ve got most of the bland golfers in the world, now you want bland commentary.. Give me Miller and Faldo anyday.. They may not always be right, but at least they have an opinion..

Miller is the best and Faldo may be a good side kick to him. But I do agree have to get rid of Tilgman, she is so boring and monotone

Pineapple and peanut butter sounds amazing!

I completely agree with sdf. Miller is the real deal. Yep, he sure enough will tell you about his great achievements, but this is no different than most other great athletes – it is part of their makeup that allows them to be so great. But as sdf says, he has no trouble telling you his weaknesses and bad moments either. I think because many of you find Miller’s personality abrasive, it is allowing your perceptions of him to be swayed a bit, and somewhat exaggerated. Miller is certainly one of the greatest players of all-time. IMO Faldo was better because he won 6 majors, but Miller is right up there. Let’s all not forget, there was a time when Faldo was considered one of the biggest jerks out there on the course. He was Monty on steroids. He didn’t lighten up until very late in his career after he had lost his edge. He will even tell you this is true – he is very open about this.

I like them both as announcers…can’t wait to hear the broadcasts from Maui!

I have never seen so many whinging comments. How about you save it til after the broadcast, then you all can speak with authority.

sdf and Dean are right.

I get so sick of hearing how the pros are just SOOO amazing. Yes they make lots of shots that I just couldn’t pull off, but they also make plenty of BIG misses. With an average green size of around 5000 square feet, missing a green from the tee or fairway is a huge miss…and they seem to miss a lot.

Pros screw up just like us. And Miller tells us what they did to screw up. Faldo tells us how he would have played the shot. (Coincidentally…I don’t care what he would have done.)

I like how brutally honest Miller is. Faldo seems pompous. Maybe the “knighthood” has gone to his head.

seff, woeful is the right word

I’d rather see a Nantz-Hicks combo instead…

I like them both.

miller thinks he’s underrated,faldo thinks he’s overrated.so this might work!!!!!

Have you all lost your minds and sense of humor. Why don’t all of the “fans of golf” relax and stop taking themselves so seriously? Miller is a good commentator, I understand he offends some and is beyond brutally honest, but most of us have no clue how difficult the shots are and he definitely keeps it in perspective (not over-rating average golf shots for professionals).

Faldo is also a good commentator, contrasting styles make for good repartee and debate among the viewers. I look forward to it and commend TGC for having the moxy to give this a try. Add Feherty, my favorite, and it could be the best show on TV.

Serlock you think Peter Costas is better but isn’t it Costas who interviewed a caddy instead of the player who won the tournament- does the Steve Williams interview ring any bells ?

Grace have to agree with you, Brandel Chamblee, should be lead if he isn’t. He is very knowledgeable about the game, tells it like it is, gives credit where credit is due. He was all over Tigers swing changes at first when he was going nowhere but gave him credit when it started to come together. Miller just seems to focus on the negative.

Johnny’s been doing it for years, because his brutal honesty is what golf needs, from the viewer’s perspective. It’s probably because Miller got feedback, after a crucial tournament, and it helped to correct future failures. Not that Johnny & Nick, er Sir Nick, will not have to endure some certain flubs, of the mic, that is. Kelly appears to be broadcasting for the wrong sport, not that I don’t like her anyway. When Brandel does some of his swing analysis, it’s free-flowing, but technical…, illuminative.
Now if Fuh hair it Tee, and mustachio could free-wheel it from the fairway, and send it back to Jim Nantz, oh sorry I went to commercial again…

I could care less who’s in the booth blithering away – that’s not why I watch a golf tournament. I usually mute the sound to avoid the constant inane jabber & the rather dumb/boring interviews.

I love the idea of the pairing. The biggest problem with Golf Channel is they don’t show enough golf shots during a telecast. They chat way too much. Watch their telecasts compared to say CBS and see how many shots they actually show. And they only show the same golfers over and over again. In a tournament like Maui, with only tour winners present, they should show as many of the golfers and shots as they can and talk less…especially Kelly and Lerner.

Kendall, I couldn’t agree with you more. You’re bang on. I tune in to watch the golfers not the commentators. I’m not interested in all that idle chatter. I don’t care about those interviews either. I want to watch golf shots.

I think Faldo will have to bite durin much of the telecast. Miller get’s on my nerves. I will sometimes watch the golf on mute if he is working. Highest rated commentater? Shows you who the mainstream viewers are. Actually interested in hearing Faldo tear him up. This could be fun and humerous, or awkward and tense.

I think Miller and Faldo need to move to Maine…such a short golf season, therefore less of them ! Ole Kelly can join them in due time but beware she’ll need to get rid of her monotone voice or else the cows will come home, oh boy !!!!

I think Johnny Miller is supreme. He calls a spade a spade and 99% of the time he’s bang on with his comments and theories. I love the guy he’s super in my eyes. No complaints about Nick either!!

The Golf Channel and CBS should get rid of Faldo. Can’t stand him. Johnny’s the best.

I think this is a good experiment. It could be interesting. Lets give them a shot and see what develops. Could be fun just to see how many things they agree upon. If it gets too bad, GC will pull the plug.

Miller stinks. I hope a whale eats him

I’m looking forward to the pairing. It will either be “the bomb” or it will be “a bomb”.

As long as I’m pontificating,

I love the Maltbie!

Also, there’s a distressingly short list of announcers that respect or are even aware of proper verb/modifier agreement while working the games.

Miller is the best commentator around. Lose Faldo and tilghmann. She is doing a little better, but continues to fail to acknowledge her fellow workers; ie the on course announcers and the people in the towers. They deserve more respect. She needs a simple map of who is where. They work hard and have names.

It not the commentatirs that bother me, it is the producer or the director of the telecast. No matter what is happening, they will show Tiger walking down the fairway than show shot by another golfer as a replay. There are too many young golfer for the producer to continue showing Tiger as if he is in his prime.

It would be great if they turned up for work in a clown suit. Then we would not have to watch the commentators. These guys should be heard and not seen when there is live play going on. As for the pairing, who cares really – it is not about the commentary. Both these guys make sense on the game – they should – it is their life. Alliss is a brilliant commentator but his playing record, although pretty impressive, is not what makes him good. You rarely hear him talk about himself or his achievements. He is good because he paints a verbal picture that compliments the golf action. You dont have to know what he looks like. I think US golf coverage could learn from this concept.

What??? No follow up to my comments???

i wonder if johnny miller remembers craig parry? Probably the greatest commentary gaff of all time!

Kelly Tilghman is the WORST….beyond annoying…I have to mute the broadcast!

I think a good combo would be Paul Azinger, Curtis Strange, and Brandel Chamblee. Jim Nantz is ingratiating! Miller is actually a funny guy.

Not a good mix. Ken Venturi and Tony Trabert knew when silence created more drama. Too many microphones in play now.

I like Johnny Miller and Nick Faldo, but have never enjoyed a broadcast more than when Paul
Azinger Nick Faldo are together, stuff you never get tired of between those two. Wish they could sign Paul to contract with Nick, to would be unbeatable team.

I am glad that Curtis the whiner is not in this crew that would indeed be strange.

BRANDEL CHAMBLEE!!!!!!

Both Miller and Faldo are great commentators with different styles. If nothing else, it should offer some entertainment. However, remember, the show is about the golf not the commentators. To enhance the viewers experience the producers should be showing more action from all the players, not just those in contention. It would be also be great if the commentators and on course announcers start calling the good with the bad. I cringe every time, and it happens frequently when I hear them kissing the players a**es.

I already listen to music and watch the golf on mute… commentators are pointless. The only person I’d turn on the sound to listen to talk about golf is Charles Barkely!

johnny miller is the BEST…faldo~not so much..hopefully this will be the LAST time for this pairing.

Miller has only said negative things about Woods since the cheating incidents, and they’re nowhere near as negative as he deserves. For 12 years we listened to nothing but over-the-top Tiger worship from Miller. He should have criticized him more often throughout his career and then he wouldn’t seem as much a hypocrite for bad-mouthing him now. It’s time to pick a new likeable favorite for the commentators to focus on, someone with actual talent and a little humility like Steve Stricker or David Toms.

Over here in the UK will all admire Faldo for what he did on the course.However when it to off course situations he open his mouth too much.

He tried to be funny but ended up putting his feet in it.You guys in the US are more than welcome to him

Faldo has a head as big as London Bridge

Let’s hear it for Glen Day folks!!!

This pairing delivers the cult of personality to golf broadcasting. For the first time, the commentary is more anticipated, and thus potentially more newsworthy, than the golf!

Congratulations golf channel on a new all-time low.

What’s next? A hot dog-eating contest while the leader’s walking up the 18th?

Johnny and Nick together sounds great! Get rid of Hicks – (he doesn’t know anything about golf) and I won’t have to touch my mute button.

I have never met a good player who didin’t like Miller as an announcer. No less than Jack Nicklaus told Howard Cosell that he thought Johnny had as much talent as anyone he played with. Johnny is like a good director in that he sets the stage, paints a picture, adds to the drama and is unafraid to go on a limb. How about today’s round when Stricker is floundering and Miller pick’s him to hang on and when when myself, Faldo and everybody else thinks he is going to crash and Stricker goes out and birdies the last 4 holes. Face it Miller has insight and the guts to make a call and is uncanny correct.

Amazing Hi DEF and camera work on Sunday. Kind of fun listening to the commentary. Ok so they’re both wise guys, but also damn good golfers.

I’ve been watching the SONY all weekend, They got Faldo and some other guy who sounds like Detective Crockett on Miami Vice (Don Johnson) – I don’t recall his name.

Faldo was actually very good. Lots of good analysis and jokes now and then. Other guy OK too. Good combination with these 2.